CHART Talks Podcast: Esben Weile Kjær & Mariam Elnozahy

"Materials in drag" and challenging the normative expectations of media, architecture, and spaces

Listen back to a conversation between the Danish artist Esben Weile Kjær and Mariam Elnozahy, recorded live as part of the Talks Programme at CHART 2025.

For the fourth episode of the third season of the CHART Talks podcast, we are happy to share a recording of a conversation between the cross-disciplinary artist Esben Weile Kjær and Mariam Elnozhy, curator, researcher, writer and Artistic Director at Konsthall C in Stockholm.

Together, they explore Weile Kjær’s fascination with contrasts: between materials, spaces and the norms and expectations we bring to them. From crafting bronze sculptures that mimic plastic (and vice versa) to investigating the social dynamics of clubbing, they discussed his use of materials as a form of performativity to examine different phenomena.

Weile Kjær reflected on his work with “materials in drag,” challenging notions of truth and intention while creating atmospheric spaces by combining music with other materials. They also explored how he disrupts architectural norms and uses text, image, music, and sculpture as tools in his expansive, cross-disciplinary practice. Examples from his recent solo exhibitions at Rudolph Tegner Museum, Statuepark, ARKEN, and Kunsten in Aalborg were shared to illustrate his approach.

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Artist talk with Esben Weile Kjær and Mariam Elnozahy at CHART 2025

Photo by Joakim Züger/BARSK Projects

Artist talk with Esben Weile Kjær and Mariam Elnozahy at CHART 2025

Photo by Joakim Züger/BARSK Projects

Artist talk with Esben Weile Kjær and Mariam Elnozahy at CHART 2025

Photo by Joakim Züger/BARSK Projects